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DMA020 - Q&A: How do you balance righteousness with legalistic works

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#20 - Q&A: How do you balance righteousness with legalistic works

This is from a Q&A session where Dan took questions from the audience.  We'll have separate episodes for each question and answer, so please check back for more!  This one covers the question about how to you preach about living in righteousness without falling into the ditch of legalism and works?  Dan has the answer and I think you will enjoy it very much.  Leave a comment with your thoughts as you listen!

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Speaker 2:

Oh, there's something I want to encourage you with questions. Be careful. Be careful that when you asked your question, it's not just always a challenge in your life on the talking about now. I promise you I'm not threatened by anybody's motive question. You can, you can use any motive you want with me. It's fine. I'd be a good soundboard to do that with. But you know, a lot of times in our life we present things as if it's a question and we're really making a statement or we already have our answer and you're really not asking a question. Some people do that to the Lord in their communication with the Lord in a moment of frustration or presumption or whatever. Please don't do that to yourself cause there's nothing wrong with questions. Just keep your heart in a good place in your life when you have a valid question. Uh, in this session, I'm probably not here. Probably our point isn't to try to answer the deep dogmatic theological questions that are on the earth and times and all that stuff. I'm probably not really interested in talking about that.

Speaker 3:

Can I have, I have a, my first question is our friend, Lisa's son just sent her this text. He doesn't know what is were going on. That's what IDK is. I don't know what's going on. He can't read. He can't. This is just, this is just now, right, so can we,

Speaker 4:

yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Let's just lift him up right now. What's his name? Jay. Jay. Let's just pray for him right now. This is spray guys. This is church.

Speaker 3:

She says, I don't know what's wrong. I can't read anything. My left side of my head is hurting and my right hand is hurting and is,

Speaker 4:

I'm on needle. Oh,

Speaker 3:

he can't feel anything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Father, we just thank you right now for who you are, for your amazing love. God. We lift Jay before you right now in Jesus name that every pain, every symptom, everything that he says is we're going on would just change right now and go away. Father. Let your love come upon him right now where he is. Holy spirit. Come upon him. Thank you. In Jesus name through Jesus. Shed blood. Come upon this young man and make things right because you love him father. And you proved that to us through your son Jay. You be whole. You'd be well, you be healed. Jesus name father, we're asking as a group right now that this would change right now in your great mercy and your great love. Thank you. In Jesus name. Amen. Kay. Thank you God. Listen, when you run into things like that, I wanna encourage you. This morning I talked about relationship with God and uh, and knowing him. When you get thrown into things like that, you want to be in a place where you're walking with the Lord. One of the hardest things that we try to do

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is build a house in a storm. You're supposed to build a house now and when the storm comes, nothing shaking. Why? Because you've walked with him. You've been with him, you've communed with him. Do you see what I'm saying? It's just important live to never get caught off guard. I'm not saying that about anything other than that. It's kind of situation comes up out of the blue. It would be really nice to be walking in Jesus and be aware. I've got a phone call one time and my wife was said to have severe brain damage and on life support in a coma. It'd be really important to believe the things I'm preaching to you when you get that phone call so that you don't just become a mess and now you're trying to apply scriptural principles to get help and then you've really reduced this book to principals hoping to get help instead of a book of covenant and life and something you're walking in so you can actually bring the kingdom into that situation. Yeah, so I honestly had the privilege of watching my wife come out of that coma and zero watch this. Who's medical here? Who has a medical background? Anybody medical background, an hour long seizure, an hour long, two meds to try to bring her out hour long. She woke up out of the coma. Zero residuals have a seizure, zero activity of a seizure in her brain. That's impossible, right? Yeah. I already knew it was. I just wanted somebody to affirm that they took a new EEG and she had zero brain damage and couldn't even find a residual of an hour long seizure. People say, Oh yeah, well that's great. Well God doesn't always in somehow. And how come? Why am I and dah, dah, dah. And when people talk like that, you can hear the hurt and offense a lot of times in their heart. You'd be really careful where you position your heart, decides how much you're going to see of God in your life. I mean, there's so many people offended by the gospel that go to church because something didn't work out. They prayed for my own mother died of sickness. It doesn't change my faith to pray for the sick. I don't find my faith through that experience. I find my faith through him. His life is the truth to me. Not my mother passing. I'm going after something and I'm going to have it. Cause he said, I can't, I'm not going to change my mind and I'm too late to debate with about it. I'm going after God. I've seen a lot of things in my life. And if I tell you about it, you'd have two choices. You either say, well, I don't believe you, or whatever. I mean, some, some people come from the camp where, well, I don't believe you, or that's from the devil. That's a sad scenario. You know, either you're moving, you're lying. Okay. So everybody that's seen a healing or says they were healed as lying or over exaggerating or mind over matter. That's a sad position to take. I've seen too many things to change my mind, but I haven't seen enough. Yeah, I haven't seen enough. There's

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things that I haven't seen that I need to see. But anyway, uh, we're gonna ask some questions. Uh, what I was saying before, while he came up with that phone message was just end time, stuff like that. I'm not, I'm not here to try to open up some controversial thing. Sometimes end time questions are only prevalent to people where they're driven by fear. The fear of the unknown. I can promise you this. If you walk in fellowship with God and live your life for everyday purpose, you won't get surprised by anything. You'll just be ready for the moment. And a lot of people are arguing over theology and why they're arguing over theology. They're missing everyday purpose and they're not even writing a legacy. They're failing to walk in love every day and they get issued driven. It's not cool. So don't do that to yourself please. So, uh, so yeah, let's take some questions if you have any. And if they're really in line with the things I've been saying, I don't mind you challenging me. I don't, I don't mind that. But if you want to have us a question concerning the things I've been sharing, that would be great. Or if you just have a question. Anybody been thinking about that? Anybody have something to ask?

Speaker 4:

How do you as a passenger encourage the church, the believers, this man, Holy and righteous living now coming across as being legalistic or stringent.

Speaker 2:

How do you encourage the church to live in righteousness

Speaker 4:

without

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being legalistic or work striven? How do you encourage a righteous life? Yeah, and some people believe like when they, when they're teaching the gospel and how we're supposed to live, they're coming at sin all the time. They're coming at sin head on, and they're always talking about sin, sin, sin. I encourage righteousness by preaching righteousness. In other words, I say this comment and now explain it. If you don't start where Jesus finished, you'll never run well in your life. If you're trying to live something that he already accomplished, you'll never run well. You'll go in circles and you'll, you'll, there's Christians that are goodhearted. They see the need for a savior, but they live to be pleasing to God. Instead of realize God was pleased to send his son, they tried to earn favor instead of realizing they've been given favor theirs. When you wake up in the morning, the best thing you can do is start where Jesus finished. Where he finished was his blood speaking better things over your life. So when you wake up, you wake up right in the sight of God. He said, why can't be right in the sight of God? We're all sinners. We sin every day. I'm probably sending why I'm breathing, brother. That is a detrimental mentality to your life, but I hear it all the time. If you're sending while you're breathing, you probably should get born again.

Speaker 4:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

See, sin comes from the heart. He gives you a heart. He changes your way. You're spending your own sin. You're not perfect or you're that you're perfect. See, I'm not saying that you're thinking way ahead of me. See, when you put yourself in that place, you can never hear an answer. You have to be very careful that we haven't set ourselves up to never understand. The key is that he rules his kingdom. Hebrews one with a Sceptre of righteousness. So these young men come to a knowledge of God and they say, I want to be born again, and I love Jesus and I believe he died on the cross and they knew before even say, Jesus, here's my life. Jesus has a bow before him, he, he, he rules. His skin was separate. Righteous. I like to paint little pictures. I could seem to[inaudible] and him and boop, seeing him as righteous through his blood that speak in better things. All of a sudden through the blood of Jesus, he sees this young man as if he's never sinned. We fight over this thing, tooth and nail in the church. But I'll tell you what. If your belief isn't producing righteous fruit, you're on the wrong track of believing. If it's making you angry, that's a dead giveaway. See? See, he sees him as if he never seen. What did John the Baptist say? He said, behold the who, what he do. Okay, so if he took it away, now what? I guess we ought to be sons. I guess we ought to be accepted. I guess we ought to be received. I guess we ought to be righteous in his sight if he said so. He says in Colossians one he says, you and me, we're both enemies and alienated to God by the wicked way. Our mind worked. He's not talking about murder and adultery all the time. He's talking about self centered thinking. Think of for you yourself in you, it's a detriment to your life when you wake up living for you. If you're a Christian for you, you're in trouble. You have to be a Christian for his great name. You have to be a Christian for his kingdom. She has why? There's integrity and character missing in people cause they're Christians for the wrong reason. They become a Christian for what God can do for them instead of how he can change them. Are you with me? You'll never change you unless you understand the answer to this question. You have to live in righteousness and what that literally means is you have right standing with God. Corinthians five says, he who knew no sin was made to be sin so you could become right in the sight of God. So if you don't wake up in the morning and understand you're already right through the blood, your life will never change. Here's the deal. If I wake up and believe I'm a son, my life starts looking like sonship. If I believe that God sees me as if I've never sin. Now I'm not trying to skirt around sin. My whole life's changing through a new identity as a man think is so he is. It says in Romans five 17 if you receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness, you'll reign a King in this realm of life, and I've learned that sin consciousness eats people up good hearted people because they relate to sooner. They wake up and try not to sin. That's a good way to be sin conscious. You don't wake up and try not to send you wake up and enjoy being accepted. Enjoy being a son. Colossians one says you were enemies and elite and so was I. By the way, our minds worked in wicked manner, yet now he has reconciled us through the body of his death and it says to present us Holy, blameless and above reproach in his sight. Now, nobody in my whole Christian life taught me this ever. They always taught me, I'm always going to soon I'm a sinner. I'm doomed to sin. I'm damned to sin and I ought to be glad and excited that he forgives me and loves me no matter what. Well, all they did was empower me to be a forgiven sinner. So my identity never changed. So my life was never empowered by grace to live outside of my president experience. So I never was able to go beyond what life taught me. I had to be. Are you with me? It's so hard to talk about in the church because we so value our own experience. We say we're following Jesus, but I think we're following ourselves and I think we've led our own functions and actions decide what's possible. But we're changed by grace. We're saved by grace through faith. So what can our lives really look like through what he paid for? What does Christ in me really look like? What's possible? What's God willing to do in me? See, I live with me. You don't live with me. You just see me now and I might look excited or you might have an opinion or you might think, Oh yeah, okay, he's got the preaching jacket on or whatever. But see, I live with me. I go to bed with me. I wake up with me. I have my own conscience. I know my life and my life is way different than before. I knew Jesus. There was things in my life that I didn't want to stop doing. And today I can't imagine why they were attractive. Why I'm changed. I'm a different man. I used to think I was damned to sin. I used to think that I always had to be the way I was. I never realized that I could be what grace is making me as I believe. So every day I wake up Holy, blameless, and above reproach. It's galoshins one guys, it's there. Some of you, I'll just read it for your sake. So you know I ain't making it up. I read this book. It's really good book. And you who were once alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works. Yet now he has reconciled. He reconciled you. Why? Why you were an enemy with wrong thoughts. He didn't say what a knucklehead. I wonder why he gotta think so stupid. How'd you so offended by them? No, no, no. Why you were thinking wrong. He says, love says, boy, there's so much more, man. If I could show them a new and living way, if I can bring a new way, if I could, the narrow way, if I could get that thing in, am I can change who they are by changing how they see themselves, how they see me, man, their lives can be transformed. Man. I can forgive where they've been cause I know what they're called to be. We haven't given each other that opportunity. We judge a book by the cover all the time. We're notorious for first impressions. We figured we got people figured out by their actions. We remember Billy did this two years ago and when we hear his name, it's all we think about and you think you know Billy, because you remember that thing two years ago, but you don't even know Billy. You don't even know what happened in Billy the last two years. You didn't know if he's swept before the Lord. You don't know if here's Holy spirits come upon his life, but I'll tell you it's amazing how we Mark each other based on the past. Now if you're going to do that with people, you certainly do in that to yourself wholly in the body of his flesh through death to present you, to present, you watch, ta-da to present you. That means you're before him to present you Holy, blameless and above reproach in his sight. Now here's the catch. Here's the clincher. If indeed you continue believing it, continue grounded in steadfast and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which you heard. Here's the tragedy. Many of us live our whole Christian life. Go to church and never even heard this. We heard you're always sinners. You're always going to be sinners. You probably send a now and don't even know it. You ought to be glad he considers you. Make sure you stay in church cause he's coming back and you better be in church when he comes.

Speaker 6:

[inaudible]

Speaker 2:

who's heard that kind of message?

Speaker 6:

[inaudible]

Speaker 2:

doesn't sound like the Bible I'm reading. He says, you're Holy, blameless and above reproach in his sight. Let me paraphrase what he's saying. If you keep believing it and don't let anything change your mind, so all of a sudden it's about you walking out in faith. What would happen in a Christian if they wake up in the morning every morning, just wake up in the morning. Good morning, Lord. Thank you for loving me, father, I so appreciate the blood that you shared through your son in the blood speaking better things over my life today. God, I thank you that you view me today and you're close to me and you're in me and you're one with me as if I've never sinned. You have changed my life forever. Oh my goodness. Nobody owes me a thing. I'm done with anger, bitterness, offense, attitudes, insecurity, self-righteousness, low esteem. You have shown me the truth about who you are in me. You have changed my life forever. Thank you for another day. It's a gift, not a grind. I appreciate your love. I wonder if you would wake up and actually believe that. See when I believe that people look at the fruit that it produces just in my accounts and they think this guy is out of his mind and I'm telling him, I laugh. I said, no, I'm probably out of yours probably out of yours. You're letting things bother you. You're letting things make you insecure. You're letting things cut into your value. If you're not careful, you're still depending on another person to live a certain way for you to be okay. You gotta be careful that's not you. You better be careful that you don't fit in any of those things. I'm not accusing you. I'm saying you gotta be careful. That's not you. Are you with me? Come on. Attitudes are diamond does in man. You think you're in control of your life. Are you kidding me? You're nothing but a product of what you're going through and how are you responding if you don't know this stuff and all of a sudden people are dictating your life continually and you think you're in control and you're being controlled by something. Like if you weren't in unforgiveness, you wouldn't be the way you are. You wouldn't do what you do if you didn't have unresolved conflicts. You want. You see what I mean? Everything is out to shape you and sculpt your life. So Jesus, in the beginning, he's there with the father and nothing was made. It wasn't made through him. So last night we taught, he said, let us make men in our image. So when God gets this desire and makes this thing about, I'm going to make man in my image, he makes man watch this. The Bible teaches, he makes man with intention. So the reason man's on the earth is to pursue and express his image. That's Bible. How many people have heard life's of grind? Life's of bleep, life's of blank. They usually put a struggle word behind it when life's a gift. And the only reason life seems like a grind is because you're living it outside of why you're here. Why would empowerment come to travel down a road you weren't created for? Why would you have grace to live what you're not here for? That's why life is a grind for so many people because they're not understanding the actual purpose of why we're here. I said it last night. I believe this with all my heart. I believe that the number one problem on the earth is every day men wake up for themselves when they're made for God's image. Christians, we're supposed to be touching the world with Christ. Come on. That's not preaching. You need to pray a prayer to go to heaven that's walking in love and living by the spirit and making his name known through your attitudes, your life, and your disposition would call it the shine. If we're Christians, we're called to shine and let your light so shine. That doesn't mean complain and bicker and moan and be discouraged and disappointed, and you're supposed to shine. So anything that's not shining is deception. And you're supposed to love not your own life unto death, and you're supposed to deny yourself and you're not your own. You've been bought with a price, so you lay down your life. We're not taught that. We're taught. Come to Lord, heal. Plus you come to the Lord, he'll protect you and then you lose a loved one and you're so confused. You can't even pray anymore because one, I look, I thought he was going to protect us. Well, I don't preach that gospel. I preach you love less your mother, your father, your spouse, your children, your houses, and your land. Cause if you don't, and yes, your own life, you will no means by no means be his disciple. Oh, you can go to church and you put offering in the basket and you can go on a mission trip and feed the poor. But you by no means be a wholehearted follower and a disciplined learner. If you don't lay down your life and love the kingdom more. See, when I lost my mother to sickness, here's the thing, he's not the Lord of my life just so he takes care of my mother because he covered that. When he put his son on the cross and raised him from the dead, my mother's justified in his sight. She is with the Lord to be absent from the bodies. Present with Lord. Model by mother has eternal life because of the goodness of God. I didn't lose anything. I feel at times like we lost a battle, but man, we won this thing for eternity. Death isn't the issue. I'm not living just for the day. I'm living for that day and that means I haven't lost a thing unless I get sentimental and wonder why God and why didn't he heal her? And I went, Oh God. And I prayed and prayed. What am I doing wrong? I'll tell you what you're doing wrong. You're thinking way too much right now because what you're thinking isn't producing life.

Speaker 4:

Come on.

Speaker 2:

Listen. Don't mix this thing up like it's not wrong to have an eye high IQ. I'm not against a hierarchy. Ooh, I'm not even against the high intellect. That analytical thinking, that thing that processes so much where you make your own mind God and you make simple things complicated. His deception. I'll tell you where it started. Genesis chapter three when a voice came to Eve and all she ever knew was God's voice, all she ever heard was God's voice. She never heard another voice. You're God's voice and the voice came and said, did God really say let's a question. Did God really say the day you eat this tree, you're going to, Oh yes. The Lord said, if I hit the street or die, even if I touch his tree, how die? Oh, you're not going to die. Listen, God just knows that today. You eat the tree. You be enlightened. I mean your eyes will open. You'll be just like him. She was already made in his likeness. This voice came and suggested something different. Just in another tone, another thought in post on God seemed to know the intention of God. It was rational. It was analytical. It talked long enough to where it overshadowed what she knew. So where it came from, I promise you, analytical is not a gift. I would never boast and be an analytical. He said, unless you become like a little child, you by no means see the kingdom of God. Some people have run this thing through so much that they make it the simplest thing, so complicated that they can't see.

Speaker 4:

Be careful with that.

Speaker 2:

It's not a gift. Don't post any people say, well, I'm a very analytical person. I say, please, why don't you let that dive right now. Let it right now here. Well, God really loves you, right on how he could love me. I mean, you know. Yeah, but you don't know my open where. Yeah, but there was a time when, yeah, and it just never ends. It just goes and goes and goes to all the sudden he can't love me and yet here's the son. Love you, but you can't see that because the yell, but yada, yada, yada, yada. Do covers it up. Are you with me? Not against intellect. I'm not against the higher IQ. I promise you. Analytical is not a gift. It's not from the Lord. He said, don't be wise in your own opinion. And what has men do pride himself and well, this is what I think. Well, this is what I think without the scripture, without truth, without Jesus as a standard. Come on, watch this. Your whole life, your whole life. You, you've been around this. We've been this. I was this. James says, be slow to speak. Slow to anger, quick to listen. What have most of us been ticked off? Don't want to hear it and have a whole lot to say. What's love do lay down its life for another. What if most of us don't lift at the expense of another total opposite. You hear the perversion. What'd you hear your whole life? Hey, that'd be great if that would happen, but if I were you, I wouldn't get my C. you all heard that right? W right here in the woods around here, like we're, I don't even know where we are. I still don't know where we are. We're in Tennessee though, right? You sure and me. We're in Tennessee. We're in a holler somewhere in Tennessee where where you heard if I were you, I wouldn't get my now guess what that phrase is self preservation. That's phrase is trying to take care of you from getting so built up and then so let down and getting your little heart so broken that it's telling you to not put your hope out there. When the Bible says faith is the substance of things. Hebrews six says, hope is the anchor of your soul passing through the veil into his presence. So the Bible said, get and we grew up without you. I wouldn't get my hopes up. Who's ever heard this one? Well, what you don't know. Wow, you heard that? Hear that language trap. It's way into these valleys, which you don't know. Whoa. The Bible says what you don't know is destroying you. It says in all your getting get understanding what you don't know won't hurt you is 180 degree opposite. Whoever heard this one where what you see is Bible says, don't you ever live by what you see? It's subject to change. The things unseen are eternal. It's not an accident that we were trained by a language that says the 180 degree opposite of that book because Christ Jesus has become the wisdom of for

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us it says, don't be wise in your own understanding. Yeah. See you say, well you seem like you're, you know, all my confidence is coming from being with him. Everything I'm saying is because of him and by him. I've put it all in here. You get it. That's the difference. Yay for Jesus. It says, the wisdom of man, that that God's foolishness, whatever that even means is wiser than man's wisdom. God's foolishness. So I got on a tangent there. Denied. I'm not even answering your question anymore. I think I answered your question. I preach that we are righteous in the sight of God. A lot of churches will that to arrogant position. No, it's what he said. So watch when you don't receive what the blood saying, what he says, that's pride. Pride resists. Humility receives. It's false. It's false humility to say, well, you know, we're just, you know, to talk yourself down, to try to lift him up. His deception, he told you to come up hither. He told you you're seated in heavenly places and to set your mind on things above,

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for you to talk yourself down and think it's humility. It's deception. I'm gonna talk about, well, you shouldn't think more, more of yourself, more highly of yourself than you are. Read your Bible in context, friend. We're not thinking more Holly. We're saying what he's saying. So if he says you're Holy and blameless and above reproach in his sight, that should be the biggest relief of your life. No, in our lives we should go, wow, I'm free from who I was. Finally free to step into what you paid for that.

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Get it on. Let's go for this life. So if you don't start where he finished, you'll never run. Well. You go to bed in him and thankful you wake up in him. Thankful you put on righteousness. It was made for you man. It would be like one of these sweet little girls. Somebody with a heart for one of these girls, make them the most beautiful dress and have it hang in Rob, they're in their little closet and they never take it off the hanger and put it on and they're hangs the whole time. Made with absolute love. Fitting you to a T to look in are pretty on you and you don't even put it on. That's exactly what it's like. Come on. The free gift of righteousness. You put a gift under that tree. You put that gift in, that little stocking, you put that gift on a table for somebody and they never unwrapped it and open it. How can they ever appreciate the intention if they never put it on? Actually, the biggest strength of my whole Christian life was understanding that I've been made free from every sin I've ever committed and I've separated myself

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from the identity of sin so I could put on Christ. You want to read an amazing chapter? Read Romans six I'll preach for hour if I open it up as stay away from if I can answer some questions. Romans six is, I don't even know how we could read Roman six and NACO. It tells you who you are through Christ. It says, should we continue in sin so grace abound because he ends chapter five with where sin abounded. Grace abounded much more. Should we continue? Incidence of grace keeps coming. Certainly not how shall we who died to sin live in it and he longer C, most of us weren't taught that we were taught pray a prayer to go to heaven in case you hit a tree on the way home. That's what we were taught. Most of us were taught. You never know when your time's up, make sure you're ready. And that's the gospel to us. No, you're dying to sin. You're putting off an old identity. She could put on something new. It's as certainly not how show you who died to sin. If you were honest, if I went around and really talked to you about your upbringing in Jesus and your background in church, some of us were never taught this cause. The next comment Paul makes in six, he says, or do you not know? See, a lot of us don't know and he talks about being buried with him and putting off our old man and our old man dying with him. And if we died in the likeness of his death and were baptized into his death, surely will raise in the newness of life. Sounds like a change coming. That's what this water baptism's all about. That's why they set this whole thing up. It's mainly verge just for miss Esther, wherever she is, she's somewhere. This whole thing was just for her. But if you would never been water baptized, if it's time to surrender your life and get right. Oh, I see her now. I got gotta. See this violin is a little light just lit up by you, ms testers. He's awesome. So we're going to put Ester in there tonight and we're going to baptize her. She's going to die in the likeness of his death and her old man is being crucified and he should go and get buried in baptism into his death. Romans 10 says the death he died. He died to sin once for all right? But the life he lives, he lives under God. It says so you rec and why's? He jumped to us right away cause he's making us one. You therefore reckon yourself dead indeed on too. Okay. Shall we continue in sin? Certainly not. How should we who died to it? Reckon yourself dead to it. How can you reckon yourself dead to it and still boasting your ability to commit it and call it[inaudible]. Hello, come on, I'm challenging you right now a little bit. See the scriptures which given me my answers, not my IQ. And I believe the word of God. And you say, I had a friend say to me once, man wonder if you're wrong, wonder if one day you die and you realize or whatever and none of this is true. I said, I'll tell you what, then nobody's got hurt. I've done nothing but good for people cause I ain't hurt nobody in this. I'm cheering

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you on, encouraging you and telling you can be so much more courage in you to walk in love. Wonder if we find out in the end, none of this was true. He said, I sit then I've lost nothing in. A lot of people got touched and blessed along the way. But I said if it is true, maybe that's a question you had asked yourself. Cause if it ain't, you have lost nothing. I'm having the time of my life. I'm either the most deceived man you ever met. The best actor or I'm onto something.

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I guess you have to figure that out where you're concerned, but I already got my answers cause I live with me. See how falling apart I am right now. It's a shame I can't hold together. I'd like to be more disciplined right now, but I'm so glad to be alive and so free from you so I can finally love you. Oh my goodness. Yeah,

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good tidings, great joy. I'm not being mean. Where's the great joy in the church? Maybe we'd be a whole lot more attracted to folks if we lived in unspeakable joy. You don't just stir it up. You don't put it on. It's not a spirit that falls on yet. The artists are your hoot and holler for an afternoon. It's a revelation that your heart sees and you don't know how to not be excited. You have a hard time calming down. Yeah, good tidings, great joy. Joy unspeakable sounds like it's hard to express in words cause you're so lit up. That's why I'm talking and giggling so hard inside and I'm like, behave helped me. Jesus, I got to get this across. I'm not here to manifest. Come on. I just don't see the kind of joy I've pastored for years. I don't see the kind of joy in people's lives. I see life deciding who they are and how they are. I see people that are only as good as things are going. You say how you doing man, and they tell you the two biggest challenges and say, keep me in prayer. That's a dead giveaway that you're finding your identity through the life that's living instead of the life. The 10 year you find in yourself through other things, not him, and all of a sudden you got tricked into thinking the gospels of survival kit

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the gospels, the answer of a brand new life and you find it in here. How can I reckon myself dead to sin and not give myself to the identity of sin and still say, stay aware of my ability to commit? You said, we don't. We just do commit sin. Wonder if you give yourself to righteousness and take a step of faith and let God teach you how you can actually live. Because I'm telling you in the church it's hard to talk about because people blow the heresy whistle all the time because they Lord their own experience above the word of God.

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It is very hard to talk about this topic because men live with so many secrets and they don't even like themselves and they're shamed of themselves and they still go to church because they have a sense of a fear of God, but their value is so demeaned. They're dipping into porn, they're messing around with this. They're saying things they ought not say and now we're worshiping or a fellow like me comes along and then you're like, Whoa, he's freaking me out. Nobody can be like, where are we all got our stuff, brother? I've been around it my whole Christian life. Soon as somebody is excited, people get nervous. Why? Cause they ain't excited.

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So they think their experience has to be reality.

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I've seen people get really nervous when somebody's really in love with God. People really in love with God. People that aren't totally love with God get nervous by people that are, they just get nervous. Why? Because they're always convicted. I've seen spouses get lit up and on fire and the other spouse threatened by their passion instead of, wow, God is moving in their heart.

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Well, what are you saying about me? Well, what are you saying about me? He could be the guy or girl, I'm not putting it on the woman. I changed my voice though. You caught that right? Can work by the way. She have a number saying anything about you honey. Just Jesus. Yeah. Well, but I mean I go to church. I'm still serving over there. Well you are now. It doesn't have to be all like that. And

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next thing you know, you're comparing yourselves among yourselves and now there's animosity instead of great rejoicing. Why? Because we're self-conscious and we judge ourselves by ourselves and we compare ourselves amongst ourselves.

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It's a trap to trap. Okay.

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Like I said, a lot of dams outside ask question, but it was big on my heart. And then w I just wanted to add, okay, I'm righteous. I'm above reproach in his sight. That's awesome. And I hear what you're saying and I need to record myself that that's just who I am. But what, how am I dealing with, you don't know the nonsense going on in my head. And you know what? Some of it I, I kinda like it, but, but it's bothering me. Okay. And I, okay. My understanding of how righteous I am because of what he's done, nothing that I've done. I want to believe that. I want to believe that. However, how, what am I an SNS, not a license to sin. Romans six is telling me that, okay, I can't just do what I want, but you know what? I like some of this nonsense and I can't stop it and show it. I'm, I'm a hypocrite. Right? Where, how, how am I going

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necessarily? A lot of people like it. I think if they like it, I don't think that's the case. I think a lot of people that want to believe and have a sense of knowledge of God, these things violate them. When you think who's ever thought something in your mind and you thought, man, where did that come from? I wish I wasn't thinking that. That makes me feel bad.

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Dad, who's ever had stuff going on inside your heart and head that you thought, eh, yeah, that you wouldn't want posted on a bulletin board? Anybody and it wasn't necessarily that you liked it, it was just that it didn't seem like you had the power to change it. It was just there cause it was there. You get, here's what

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happens is great question. Watch. Second Corinthians 10 tells you the weapons of your warfare. They're not carnal. They're mighty in the breaking down of strongholds would have strong holders. It's a belief that builds inside of you and it begins to dominate and control your life. It it, it pulls you believe it becomes a stronghold. It sets up camp and you can't see past it. It it, it robs you of seeing past that it's a stronghold. It says that we have a weapon of warfare that's mighty in the breaking down of strongholds. Let me just clarify for simplicity what he's saying. We have an answer for breaking down lies. That's what he's saying. Now, watch this. Watch this. I saw you, your saw, you shake your head. You were being honest when I said who has things in and you went did you just said it. You look real sincere so I'm not picking on you. I just, that's awesome. Now watch this. And I said, and you feel bad about it and you wish it wasn't there but you can't turn off and it's there anyway. And I saw him go and he got up, made eyes and went like this. No watch the fact that he doesn't want to think it or if he could turn it off, he would tells me where his heart is. The thing isn't coming from inside him. It's coming from familiar, Almaty suggestion. It could even be spiritual, but the fact that you care or thing bothers you who's ever done something and two years later you've remembered it like it was yesterday and that, Oh, bear feeling tried to creep back over your soul and you thought it was over two years ago and now you're thinking about it like it was yesterday and now you feel violated again or you feel like the same person that did that. Anybody ever experienced that in their life? Okay, now watch this. Here's what we do. We're notorious for this. We are, we'll call somebody for prayer. It's not a prayer issue, it's a truth issue. We'll say, man, I don't know what's going on in my mind, but I'm feeling cause we take responsibility and get personal with everything that's running through our minds. Not everything that is running through your mind is coming from your heart. Some of it's just familiar Allity. Sometimes it's a blast from the past. Sometimes it's just recollection. Are you following me? Here's the key. If what's your thinking bothers you, that's a good sign. It ain't you. So if you internalize it and take responsibility for it and start repenting for something you're not even doing, now you're in big trouble because now you think something's wrong with you. But what's right with you is there was a time you would think that not even blink and now you think it and it bothers you. So you're changing. So, and who knows that? I mean, we don't talk about it enough. Some of us are weirded out by it, which is kinda sad. But there's a demonic side to life. There's, there's spirits, there's things I could tell you. Tons of stories and experiences. It's just a reality. There is lying spirits, familiar spirits, deceiving spirits. We don't talk about much in the sense that we don't want to give them honor. You certainly don't want to put them on a platform. But I'm telling you, Paul said, don't be on of their devices and don't give them any place. Pretty simple.

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One of the signs of a believer cast out, most of us try to think they don't exist. Okay, so, so you've got a young girl,

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she's 21 years old. She's driving to work. She's born again for the last 14 months and she's excited and she's got a bunch of Christian friends and they're all going to this youth rally and they're excited. They're going to hang out together and be girlfriends and they're just loving Jesus together and she's on her way to work and she's a week out of going on this weekend conference. She so excited that she's heading to work. Well, when she was 18 this thing happened with his boy and relationship and it hurt her and broker and she felt convicted and she crossed lines and all of a sudden she's driving to work. She's 21 she's excited. She's gone. She's not harboring this cyst, not dwelling on this. She's not wishing she was back there. She got new life. She's going after Jesus, she's got new friends, she's driving to work and all of a sudden the picture of that thing from 18 is right there. Who's ever had something like that happen in their life. It's calculated. It's on purpose. It's common for an opportune time when it wants that girl to do is gray out and relate to being that same person. So we think, Oh no, something's wrong with me. That must still be in me. I must need deliverance. I must need prayer. Are you kidding me? You need truth. You don't cry and get on your cell phone and say, can you pray for me? I'm remembering that stuff.

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No, this is an opportunity for you to be driving in your car. Father, I just thank you for the freedom you've brought in my life,

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right? Wow. That picture's there. Father, I just thank you that you set me free forever and changed me for all time. God, you put a new thing in my heart. You have washed me clean and you have stood me pure before you. God, I so appreciate your love for me. Bam, bam, bam. Why? Because this thing's outside trying to get back in and getting you to where what you're not.

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That's why it bothers you, because it's not you. And there was a time in your life you were trying to make this happen and now you'd love to forget it. That's a sign you've changed. So this thing comes back and says, eh, still you. That's where you got to lift your voice. It's a prayer thing. It's a true thing. It's the weapon of your worth there. See, I promise you, man, people are doing good. Who can you help me? Help me, man. What's your name? Huh? Okay. Look, look, look smart. And guys[inaudible] can you tell he's born again? Can you tell? Can you tell he saved? Okay. Sit down and park. Cause he's saved, right? He saved, right. He's saved. Right. Okay, good.

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Here's our demonic strategies where Paul's doing good man. He's driving his car. He's having the time of his life and Jesus, he's grown up in God. He has good convictions. So I'm just gonna play this out. This might not be totally how it works. I'm just gonna have fun with it. But give you an illustration. So there's, there's assignments, there's familiar, there's deceiving

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bridges, lying spirits. So let's just say Satan's ruined. He's over here and he's like, he's looking at Paul and he's going, Oh, I don't like this man. I used to own that boy, man. I remember when he'd listen to everything I said, now I feel like I ain't got no access to this man. He's concerned me who I see the light growing in that man. I gotta turn this around also. He goes, come here. And he says, Hey boss. He says, Yanik, come on. He says, listen, you see Paul? He's like, Oh, amped up. He's one of these. He's Christian. You know, he's all on fire. He, he's growing. He's woo Jesus as I have Scott swabs. Oh gosh. Your genius bars. Yes. They'll Arthur boss. Yeah. Well go get him mango. Oh, so Paul's just driving in his car, right? Yeah. Just drive, man. This thing comes, he sitting right here, he says, Oh, you're so excited. Huh? Well, what are you really excited about? I mean, what's really changed? What's really the big deal? I mean, what's coming because of all this? What's really different? I mean, remember when? Yeah, like seven years ago. And remember how I see that happens to everybody now, right there, he's faced with options. He can either go and gray out or Paul, which he'll deal. He can go, father, I thank you for the transformation of my life and God, I appreciate for the work you're doing inside of me and God and ha ha ha. Yeah, keep your eyes on the road though. Come on. Keep your eyes right now. Watch. So this thing goes, Oh, he runs back. He says, boss, boss. He says, did you tell him? I told him boss, I promise. I told him everything you told me to say he had. Did he get this scary? Oh boss, you ain't gonna believe this. He lifted his heart up and started to worship God. You fool. You couldn't have told him what I said. Cause when you talk like that to Christians, they get discouraged, depressed, and call for prayer. Not this Christian. I think he's a believer. You fo, I'll take care of this myself coming at you. So what? What? I just have screws. Crops. What's wrong? Father? I had to say he never addresses the enemy. He never addresses the problem cause it's not a problem cause he's living from here and all the sudden he says, know what?

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That is not who I am. That's not who I ever want to be. Father I thank you for the change in my life. Watch. So every time this thing comes to break him, it runs the risk of making him if he stands in truth. So all the sudden he's not threatened by nothing except not seeing who he's become. He get it. That's how you handle voices. Thanks man. You did a great job giving me like a little clap or stuff. It does, doesn't it? Because here's the thing. Everybody in the room can relate to that little thing without really thinking about what's happening. Where's it coming from? Cause a lot of us take internal personal responsibility and just think that we got a problem and we're still defiled or still messed up or something because we were thinking and if I was okay I wouldn't be thinking that stuff. I watched a video before I was saved that you just shouldn't watch. But I didn't have that conviction when I watched it. Now I'm born again, years later, years, I'm pastoring, I'm in a school of ministry. We're going to talk about gifting and words of knowledge and healing. And I'm preaching that night, but they're in worship, right? And it was a Holy amazing moment. It was one of them hush moments. Like the atmosphere was like, don't get loud right now. We're all kind of overwhelmed. Whoa Lord, you're amazing. And it was a real quiet moment. I'm standing there with a microphone. I'm ready to go up there. I'm not saying this in a wrong way. You learn the flow of services. You know you're about to be up there in the next few minutes. You're hearts before the Lord. You're prepared, you're your ready. You know you're going to get up there and transitioned in a minute. But this worship moment was Holy and amazing and we were all just kind of savoring the presence of the Lord. Like wow, father, you're awesome. So I'm standing there with a mic. I'm revved, I'm ready to roll. You know I'm standing with the mic and I need in and here's where you don't want to be an analytical person because you'll be like, now how can I be thinking that in the presence of the Lord? Well, I don't know how that can be if he's really here, dah, dah, dah, dah.

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In my mind, unsolicited, the last thing on my mind or in my heart is that silly video from years ago. I'm standing there in a atmosphere of amazing

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and called the Lord and I got a mic in my hand and the video started going through my head like I turned it on

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in church. I'm the speaker with the Mike. I'm the pastor. That thing was on purpose looking for opportune time. The enemy says the ruler of the swirl. Come on. Jesus said, the of this will come as the enemy.

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Come at the wool of this word come as Jesus said this and he has nothing in me. It said he left him and looked for a more opportune time when he had access. What do you think is happening right now? Opportune time access. I'll get Dan to believe this is in him, that this stuff's in his heart. I'll violate his conscience before he preaches. I'm standing here with a mic. I've got a silly video going through my head like I'm watching it right now. Like I hit the on button and see I'm the wrong person at this point. I'm a mad man. Did you figure that out yet? I ain't playing I the atmosphere. All of a sudden it wasn't about Holy hush and don't, no, no. We're in warfare. We're fighting the good fight of faith. We're not fighting people. We're not even fighting. The devil. Guys are fighting the good fight of faith. We're continuing to believe in the face of it all. Our fight is continuing to believe, so I guess what I did, I got the microphone in my hand and I didn't have it on yet, but it was not quiet. Everybody's hushing. This girl's up there tinkering on the keys. The high keys, it sounded like rain and nobody's, you can't even hear people breathing. There's a little bit of, every once in a while somebody is like, Oh, and I go, father, thank you. You've changed my life forever. God, I appreciate and I go ballistic while the videos running. Why? Cause that thing ain't in my heart. It's just in my head and when a wants me to do is turn a kneel and cry and pray and repent for something that's not even in me and lose my identity through a memory. Not today friend, I'm a little more established than that. Righteousness has set me free so I go bananas. Everybody, it's my church. They love me. I'm their pastor and they think, wow, this is a little out of the atmosphere. I guess that's abrupt to answers freaking out right now. It was so loud. I was being gentle when I gave my expression. It was, it was loud. God and I thank you and you have pure fire and changed my life forever. Y that thing poked me and the weapon in my warfare's right here. Truth makes me free declaration. This thing came to try to break me to slip in and sneak in on me. It's helping to make me, the thing that's designed to shut me down is a springboard for seeing clear. Are you getting it? So I go, absolutely not. I don't know what you're ready for and I might be stumbling. A few people just don't get up and leave on me real abrupt or yeah, but I said, God. And the people started to enter in one at a time just kind of following me as the pastor and they said, Lord, we thank you that another room turned into a RA. So we went from, Oh Jesus. Ah, it was really crazy. So right in the heat of all that, I step up now watch. I looked at a man sitting about in there behind where you girls are. It's right back in there. I said, you sir, something your middle of your back is herniated. Is it a disc herniated? He said, yeah, you feel that he[inaudible] I said, get up. Bend over. Touch the floor. There's no pain. I know it. Whoo. He's crying. I said, ma'am, you got something grown on the side of your ankle, on the inside of your right ankle. Is that true? To assist? Yeah. I didn't know these people. She said, yeah. I said check it. You'll find it's not there.

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Bam, bam, bam. Yeah. Watch things happened in that room that I don't think would have happened if I didn't see the video.

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Cause the video.

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Ah, yeah.

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The design was to get me second guessing condemned eater internally struggling in secure man. I should maybe pass the mic till I get myself cleaned up.

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No, I'm going to keep the Mike. Thank you for who you are and what you've done. Thank you for making me brand new that are never be the same. You have put new life in

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and then I come from that place and look out here and go

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do, do, do, do

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and see what he sees. And then you point out this and you point at that and God's gone things that might not even happen if it wasn't for the video. Now if you're the enemy, how do you fight that kind of weapon? DRI. If we actually pan out to be believers, what could you possibly do about it?

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He starts running out of options, doesn't he? Do you think he's going to do that again? Ah. Oh I don't think so.

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See, my whole goal in that meeting wasn't to manifest and do all that stuff. My whole goal was to teach, train and equip. There's usually a level of demonstration, but it was just such a high moment in God and such a revelation. And I believe the reward of heaven just comes and says, man, good job. You just kept your eyes on this. And he just allowed me to have fun as really fun. It's really fun to fly with somebody on you. You're playing beside you and you know what's going on in their, and you still didn't talk to them. It happens to me all the time. So you can debate all you want about things, but you're a little late to talk to me cause you can't do anything about my experience. The only thing you do is call me a liar. And I guess we'll find out some day countless people crying beside me on an airplay. And you know their stuff and their details. He know things. You know where they're hurting, you know where they're akin. And you whisper it to them and they go, how did you know that? Some people go, well, you are psychic. You say, well, kind of, but not really. I'll explain in a minute. Can I just see your hand? It'll be fun. You'll see what's wrong with me. Jesus lifts inside of me and I can't do anything about it. Now he moved in for keeps. He didn't sign a Lucy took ownership, but see, I'm not going to hear those things. If I'm distracted by life. I'm not going to be pers perceptive like that. If I don't have a healthy identity, if I'm worried about things, if I got people bugging me, how am I going to be in tune with that stuff? If I got issues, I don't have issues. I have the kingdom, so thoughts in your mind, you're never threatened by him unless you believe them. If they're not negative or if they're negative and not producing life, they're not the Lord. If they're not negative, receive them in the Lord, but turn everything into a God moment. Watch this. Don't wake up in the middle of night and say, Oh, I had such a terrible dream. No. Flip your dream into a God message. Sit up in your bed even if you believe it was the devil. Father, I just thank you for teaching me tonight and speak into my heart and flip the message of the dream into life. Because if it is the devil, he ain't going to do that no more. I read it in James' submit to God. Resist the devil. He'll flee. You know what we do? The devil. Wow. And then we pray. Devil get out of here and he says, boy, I got their attention. Look, he has no identity. He's cut off weathering branch coming to nothing. Look what happens when you give somebody a Mike. They manifest. If you put him on a platform, of course he'll perform. Yeah,

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I gave him no place. Who? What? People ever played the ignore game with each other growing up and you just have to like, you didn't hear somebody when they were talking like, Oh, come on. I know you hear me and you're just like, did you hear you hear me? Why don't we do that to him? He'd go, yak, yak, yak. Why don't you just ignore him and just go straight to swag? Yeah.

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