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Anybody have a question, sir? Your wife for eight years? Yeah, change in her life. Okay, absolutely. Good question. He said you shared a testimony of a wife for eight years. She struggled with her identity. You said what was the change in her that brought her out of that eight year struggle? It's actually a beautiful story. Okay. Because I shared how I could have been a lot of other things maybe in those eight years hurting husband, ready to break down. Call Wiley, please pray for me. If she doesn't change soon, I can't take it much more that language. Sound familiar to anybody?

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she was in ICU on life support with severe brain damage. Me and my, my 14 year old went in and prayed for my 14 year old was going through his own stuff right in the moment. So I had my daughter, my son and my wife, all springing off of each other. They would tell you today if they were in the room that they would team up on me to try to make me look like the problem. My kid sat down and didn't have a parent child conference. They had a child parent conference. They sat me down to tell me, dad, you're too extreme. You're too much. Jesus. You got to face reality. We don't see anybody out there thinking like you are living like you because they knew how I live. So they weren't saying, dad, you're a hypocrite. You preach in the church and then you're not that way at home. That was never the issue. I promise. They could only say you're too extreme. I don't see anybody out there. Nobody even in our church that's living what you're living, dad, you're, you're, you're out of balance. You're too much. Jesus. And I said, guys, I don't even know what you're trying to say. Well, you're just too much. Jesus dad. It's not like everything's Jesus and they didn't preach at my kids. I just lived my convictions so they couldn't live around me without being convicted. It got so bad that if I was just reading my Bible, they would interpret it as look at him over there, reading his Bible to make a statement asking if we read our Bibles. That's when you know you're out of fellowship with golf. When somebody's reading their Bible and you think it has to do with you, that's when you are very self conscious and insecure and really need help from before my boy was messing around behind the scenes, I had no idea that the Lord never showed me, showed me a couple things in his teen years that were pretty, uh, timely and amazing that confronted him. But my kids had that conference with me that day and it was funny. I said, well guys, it's unfair that you're mentioned in some of these leaders names and comparing me to them. I said, see, I'm not following them and following Jesus, and you said there's nobody out there that looks like what you see me. I said, you got to open your Bibles up and take a good look at Jesus and tell me if there's anything you see in your dad that looks like that or anything in him that looks like your dad because I'm following him guys. And then the Holy Spirit's pretty sharp, right? I said, here's what you're doing today. You're desiring to go into the flesh and live weakness. Your consciences are violated, but you have things you're set on and you feel like I'm a hurdle. You have to jump. I'm your last turtle, so you're having this little talk to try to get past the hurdle so you can move forward. And I just looked at him and said, guys, and we just had look, talk and hug Doman they walked out of the room like this. Shortly after all that, my wife goes into a violent seizure. She ends up on life support in ICU with severe brain damage. They told me on the phone that they were very concerned she would die and I told my boy, I want you to come in with me and I wasn't being arrogant. Please don't, please don't. Just judge what I say. That'll locate you. Just hear what I say first. Wait til I'm done before you think about it. See, I've seen a lot as a pastor, I, I've seen people go into church and and get an extra push toward God when they're in crisis. And then they quote scripture like it's magic and then they don't get what they're quoting. And then they get in a quandary and back off again. I've seen people getting married troubles and they run to church and when their marriage is okay. Oh wow. And they, Israel did it over and over in the Bible over and over and over. The doctor called the house and he said,

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mr Mala. I said, yeah. And he said about the condition of my wife. And I said, okay. He said, I want, I need your consent to run a spinal tap and dah, dah, dah. And we're very concerned she could die this and fluids. I don't know nothing. I am zero medical. I'm not against medical. I'm just zero. No nothing. So I said, doctor, please listen, you're talking another language to me. I said, now is not the time for me to get a medical education. That's what you went to school for, sir. And I respect that and your heart is to help her. You do what you believe is best and I eat one of these liability guys watching you like a Hawk. You do what you believe you're trained to do and what you believe will help her and now come in and do what I've been equipped to, to heal a, see a lot of people call that arrogance, but you're too late to talk to me about that cause I was in their shoes. A lot of people would say, that's arrogant. I don't know. Nope. I told him I was prepared. I'm ready to come in. And he said, well what is that that you're coming in to do? What are you equipped to do? I said, sir, I'm going to lay hands on her and the kingdom of God is going to come upon her. And he said, well sir, I appreciate that, but I have to face the reality of the situation because I'm the doctor. I said, no, you couldn't hear what I said, but it's not your fault. My boys listening to the whole conversation, I said, you have seen countless confessing Christians come in here under situations like this and absolute ness quoting scripture. They haven't even done with him. They're calling on him when they need him and they're looking for an answer, like a rubbing a lamp. I said, that's not who you're talking to on the phone. I've been with him and that moved by this phone call. I'll see you in a minute. I told my boy, I said, what's going on dad? And I told him and he just put his head down on the dishwasher and I poked him and said, Hey, don't even go there, but get yourself freshened up. You can come with me. It'll be a good experience. We'll see the glory of God. He still talks about, because he said, when I got that phone call, he by my questions in response, he knew it was some serious, but he said, you would never know by looking at. He said, dad, you didn't even flinch. It's impossible to not flinch. I've been in serious car wrecks and my POS was normal and my countenance was, I had paramedics yelling at me and said, now's not the time for jokes, or we need to find the driver. I, my disposition was so normal and relaxed that there's no way I could have been driving. It's impossible, but it's not. I've been with him. It's not my fault.

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we went in the hospital, he wouldn't come. He said, he's not coming. I said, I'd love you to come. It'd be a great experience for you, but if you decide you can, I'll never judge you for it. I won't hold it in front of you. I said, I understand, but nonetheless, I'm heading in there. So I went up and got some things together. I come down, I said, Hey buddy, he still standing in the same position. Why? Everything's running through his mind now because he's violated in his conscience. He's living some things in secret. He's crossing lines. He's not in a good place and momma's in Tacoma and he's messing around and he ain't ready. He ain't ready. His conscience is vibrate. And I said, I'll see you bird, and I hugged him and he said, dad, I'm coming with you. I said, that's a good thing. I'm happy about that. So we went in, we walked in, I talked to him about not, not looking at her state, so we walked in there. It's funny how your spontaneous, he's laying there. His first, I seen her on life support in Tacoma and stun even look like her face looks, swelled. Her eyes are puffy. She sat tube is working for her.

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Ah,

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Oh. She just said her man that crawled up on her bed and big smile. He lit my face and I popped her eyes as wide as I could. I said, Hey, I said, you boys are here to see you. I said, we come to get you out of this nap. You've been in this nap a little bit too long and my voice is staring at her and I said, we had to stop at the grocery store girl. And it was not a pretty sight. I said, we didn't know where we was, what we were getting. I said, you're getting up and this boy thinks I'm ironing a shirt tomorrow for school, so I know you're coming up now I can I or not travel. I didn't even know what I was doing. Later I realized it was the mercy of God for my boy, cause all he could see

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was it. Coma stuff's important.

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Just cause you know what the Bible says and quoted don't mean you see what the Bible says. If you're only quoting it because you see what you're quoting it to, you're in trouble. When you get told you're going to die and you pray from the perspective of a dying man, that's probably why we die. When you become your prognosis instead of a finished work of his son, there's a difference between the two because deep in my heart, even if I lose my wife, I know that nothing changes about the gospel, but I ain't gone in there to lose her. I'm going to hold on as tight as I know, but deep in my heart I know I can't lose. We already won. I remember being in home group one time. I actually tore my shirt. I was so passionate. See I'm calling for you. I was crawling on my knees in the floor and they all come piling in my home. I had 70 people in my small little home sitting up the steps in all the rooms, powered up everywhere and I can't even see through the people in them on the floor, on my knees. And I was quite, and I said, you see that woman? I pointed at my wife and I'm passionate. Like you can't imagine like way more than you've seen me all weekend. Did you see her? I love her. She's the wife of my youth. I finally love her. I know what it means to love her. You see them two precious kids of mine and they're sitting there. My kids are looking like, Whoa, daddy's pretty intense right now. And everybody's like, Whoa. Cause they all come around home group Jesus, yay blessing, woo fire God. And they're all looking to come and have fun in the Lord. And now I'm on my knees in a mad man thing comes on me and I'm like, see her. See you. You see this house? I said, you take her from me, you strip them children from my life. You burn down this house and you kicked the shirt and my shirt when the buttons flew, Oh it was really perfect timing. You take the shirt off for my back and I looked at him and I said, but you cannot touch me because now I understand why I'm here. None of that will change this truth. In fact, I'll run it all the more because I'm living for a call and people were looking at me, my home group. They're like, Hm. Rather, I don't think this is why we came to your house for this message. We came for blessing. What? I'm preaching his blessing cause it's total freedom. I'll send your not even afraid of adversity because it's not the issue. You're not living for calm seas. Are you kidding me? If you're living for calm seas, you're always driven by the seas. You're as good as they are called. How does all that change? Truth of why he's in me. Let me stretch you right now. I know I'm not doing a lot of questions. For some reason for watches. If my wife runs off with another man and I go home and find out she ain't even there. Let me ask you a strong question. How am I any lesson knowing it in houses is a truth about Christ in me. Change. Why would I let one woman's action decide my life and stereotype me and Rob me of the truth? Yeah. See, we can't even handle that analogy. I feel that in the room,

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but I wish we could.

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How does one woman's mistake in sin change the truth about the Lord in me? Why do we let it all the time? You are with me. Come on. That one AGA. I feel that in the room it feels weird when you use that illustration. We are not ready for that because of that happened to us. Devastation, broken trust. Never trust again, but then because of insecurity and need, we're with somebody else, but we carry all that unhealed stuff along with us. Now we're putting on a new person. Stuff that another person put on us now they have to bear what we haven't dealt with. Oops. Don't get uncomfortable. Just go. Amen. Long story short, I prayed for my wife. My boys there popped her eyes open. You ever look into the eyes of a dead person? Do you ever been around anybody dead? You can't find their eyes. I'm looking at you. You can't do that. Kenya, when they're in a coma, you can't do it. It's an astounding thing. The the, the, the soul living the souls alive when they're in a coma, you can't find their eyes. I, it's the strangest thing. It's like you can't, they're not there, but you can see the pupil, but they won't look at you. I'm looking right at you. You're looking at me, right? You can't do that to a dead person. You can't do that to somebody that was in her state. I popped her eyes open and I looked down and I just had to look past that quickly because I couldn't find her eyes. So I just talked to her. I didn't realize I was doing it for my boy cause all he could see was a coma size being fun, loving and it wasn't a strategy and I didn't plan it and think I'm going to try to Umer our way through this. So I looked at him, I said, you ready to pray? He said, yes, dad probably prayed 20 seconds, took a little longer than I usually do for some reason I'm just faith guy. I don't just pray, pray, pray, pray, pray. I was father, I thank you for your son. I thank you for what you paid for and redemption restoration. Kim, you get up, you be whole. You be unfaced by the situation. You live the will of God. You be the woman you were created for. You get up out of this thing in Jesus name, 20 seconds. Wow brother. Here's where we slip up and follow the time you say amen. You just prayed your faith prayer the best, you understand and there she is, lay and sucking on that tube and that's where we fall apart because we turn faith into a point in time. I hit miss, win or lose. Did he or didn't he as he learned her sucking on that tube and I looked at my boy and smiled real big. I said, you ready to head out? We did where we came for mama will be well, okay. Yet we headed on out the room. She still sucking on that ventilator. We get out of the room. You're in ICU. You're supposed to be. There's other people. My boy starts throwing up the[inaudible] when I see you can't do that right now. I'm thinking as a dad, he's overwhelmed cause we're leaving mom and he just saw her in a coma so I figured he's fallen a party out on as long as he could. He's losing it. Come on buddy. We hit the mechanical door. We get out in the hall once we get out in the main hospital, he is done. I said, buddy, listen, you can't be seeing mom. He said, Hey mom, my boys not like this. He pushes me and he's like violently and I'm like, well, birdie, you got me confused if it ain't mom and I'm thinking, man, what some deep family things unfolding right here in the hospital or Hey mom, it's you and me, dad. It's you and me. I thought, Oh, I turn is okay. We're going to settle some unresolved conflict right here. I said, buddy, let's head out and let's talk about it. I said, I said, uh, I said, I don't know what he said, you and me, dad, we're so different. We're not different. I said, we both have a covenant with God. We're both loved by God. The blood speak in the same thing over me that his speaking of year and I tried to just share why I'm confident and share scripture with him cause that's the only way to get him out of that Struth scripture. He said, well, you're preaching at your boy. No, I'm really helping my boy. You ask him today. He loves me so much because he knows his daddy is a man of God because he has seen me in all these situations. He was with me when the car got so crushed that I had to break open my door and pull them through a space and he saw standing there with the biggest gleam. My daughter said, mom, I couldn't even be afraid. I just kept looking into daddy's face and knew everything was okay. See what's wrong with me. God tell you through these things. So you realize we left the hospital. He's screaming and out there New York, me, and I said, there's no difference. He said, yes it is dad. Yes it is. I mean, he's letting me have it like I don't have a clue what's going on. I said, buddy, there is no difference between us. And I told him, he said, yes, it is dead. Watch. He said, 14 you don't see what I see. You don't see what I see.

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juice. And he fell on me and began to cry, not lean down. I said, I see Jesus side lifted up. I see the King of Cory. I don't see and I began to talk to him about living his life where as conscience stays clean and being ready in the moment and I got to use it as a real springboard. So I told him, you're not going to be depressed, you're going to school tomorrow. You can iron your own shirt and you can buy on. Buy a bam. We get home an hour and a half later my wife opens her eyes. An hour and a half later opens her eyes, was zero brain damage, zero residuals from an hour long seizure. I go into the hospital when I see my wife, they have her completely unhooked, all unhooked cause I went in at six 45 in the morning because the Lord I was taking a shower. He said, today is a day of increased grade increase. Go see your wife now. I said, now, he said, now I have to. I did hyper wash gone. I was in there. I snuck in there at six 45 in the morning. She sitting up in bed. The doctor that I talked to on the phone. I remember the doctor that I said do what you were trained for. I'll do what I was good. He's doing, he's the head of ICU. So he's doing his little white coat circle at the start of the day. He's got all the guy that he did, they all got clipboards. They're doing a debrief, patients runs, dah, dah, dah. He sees me coming through. I looked over and I went like that cause he looked at me, he went like this to his circle, laid his clipboard down and ran through the circle, ran to me, ran to me. I said, Hey, good morning doctor. He said, Dan, your wife is doing amazing. I said, I know doctor, that's why I'm here. I was just in the shower and the Lord said to get in here and see her today. Agree Dan, after you left, she woke up. She's been coherent. She's been talking, she's communicating with the night shift nurse. I got all the notes written. We have done a full test. She has no brain damage and no seizure activity. It. It's, it's beyond medical and, and, and, and I said, doctor, I want to thank you so much for all you've done done. We didn't do this. We, we didn't. I said, doctor, I understand you didn't do that, but man, don't miss it. You've done a lot and I appreciate you. No, you don't understand. We didn't do that. I said, talk to her. And he just started to cry because this was such a miracle to his heart. He just started to cry and he grabbed me an initiated hug and a passenger tell me a long time ago when somebody grabs your leg and hugs, you don't let go til they do. So I just held him and he just held me. And when he finally let me go, it was a long hook. He was weeping and I said, thanks again doctor. I turned the corner. I'm finally answering your question. I get such long answers come around the corner and my wife's sitting up, sweet little thing. She just come out of the coma, her hair is flat. She's in her little hospital gown, tied in the back and she's sitting there. And I looked at her and she went, hi. Hardly could talk, had a whisper because of the trake. Hey. I said, Hey you. I said, Oh my goodness, you've never been more beautiful. She went, Oh, hello. Ran in there and I squeezed her. She yawned. I just started crying. It was so cute. She yawned. She's alive. Jesus is Lord. We can live a certain way, right?

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you can say, well, Dan, your own fare, because wonder if people have the experience and did all that and they didn't get that answer. See, you're missing the points that I'm making. Talk about living in Jesus, living in fellowship. Whether I got the result or not, it doesn't change how I live. Are you with me? And then I learned there's a connection because how I live actually ends up determining a lot

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I do know this. You have no authority over what you fear,

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right?

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So she said, what happened to me? Why am I here? I said, honey, you had a violent seizure. That's what they were telling me. I said, yeah, it was pretty serious. It lasted an hour. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They actually thought you were going to go, girl. They thought you were going to die for here you are. And she went watch. Cause she's been telling me all this time be better if I was just going, I can't get it straight. I'm such a goofball. I'm such a dead weight in your life. I'm like, stop. You're none of those things. Watch. She looked at me and went, she started crying. I said, why did she say you held on?

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Yeah, to me it didn't let me go.

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I said, you're not going anywhere. I love you. You're awesome. And she realized that all this time I was seeing something about her. She wasn't and that she wasn't worthy of going. She was worthy of love and she realized in her heart, I don't totally see what it is yet, but there's a truth about me that he knows. And that changes every day. And from that day I watched her walk out of that lie by the grace of God. Now, her biggest challenge as a mama was both her children, our children, both her children were in a bad situation right then and her biggest challenge actually, my son went on to get in a real bad when my daughter was already kind of in one. So right then my wife started walking out of it, her biggest challenge and I just loved her through it and walked her through. It was feeling condemned every time they made terrible choice, feeling like she helped to feed that and was partially responsible. So I said, listen, you can only be sorry from your heart. Condemnation is a zero. When do you fall on the mercy of God? So if you believe you helped few it, why don't you help diffuse it? And why don't you live with a clear conscience and live in uprightness and go after God like never before. She said, that sounds better. So God pulled her out of the condemnation and pulled her out of the lie. And today my wife is doing amazing. My wife is doing amazing. She's, she's a gem. She's so sensitive. She will pray for you and cry for you. And won't even know. You should just hear what you're going through and she'll lay on her couch and weep and cry before the Lord and pray. My wife's a jam, so that's how she came out of it. When her husband held onto her in prayer and didn't say, well, this is my out. She's been pretty hard to deal with anyway. I guess this is tough, but in some sense it's a gift because things haven't been happening for eight years. I don't know if you understand. Do you understand what I mean when I say I was living married, but like single for eight years because of where she was? Do you get that phrase? Totally. Okay. Completely fulfilled. Not needy. Not itchy. Yeah.

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Fulfilled. Yeah.

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